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Post by Aryez on May 28, 2005 21:57:49 GMT -5
I would like to revote on the Union with Natopia. Or, if you'd let me, can I change my vote to a YEA so the bill passes?
I realize that Lavalon's only way for surivial now is this union. Nobody cares much of an isolated nation that is left out of key treaties that are in it's best interests. I therefore want to revote on that bill, or else change my vote to YEA.
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Post by neem on May 28, 2005 23:21:05 GMT -5
Hmmm... can we do this? Carson's chancellor, so I guess it's his call
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Post by csmith on May 29, 2005 5:53:58 GMT -5
You can't change your vote, but you definitely can call a re-vote. I second your motion and vote YES.
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Post by Aryez on May 29, 2005 10:20:53 GMT -5
YEA
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Post by Brian Capelle on May 29, 2005 12:02:48 GMT -5
No...
Oh man, this is idiotic... this is NOT the only way to save Lavalon, Lavalon will only get better and better, but if we merge we will lose activity... THERE IS NOTHING TO BE GAINED!!!
Gah!
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Post by Aryez on May 29, 2005 12:14:42 GMT -5
But you see, I've already noticed that other nations just seem to ignore Lavalon and send their deals and treaties to Natopia. The only way Lavalon can gain these benefits is by being part of Natopia. Besides, Lavalon will survive and be active if it's citizens make it so. That's up to people like us. And there is no clause that says Lavalon can't withdraw from Natopia if it wishes to.
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Post by neem on May 29, 2005 12:21:55 GMT -5
YES
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Post by Brian Capelle on May 29, 2005 13:02:05 GMT -5
"But you see, I've already noticed that other nations just seem to ignore Lavalon and send their deals and treaties to Natopia. The only way Lavalon can gain these benefits is by being part of Natopia. Besides, Lavalon will survive and be active if it's citizens make it so. That's up to people like us. And there is no clause that says Lavalon can't withdraw from Natopia if it wishes to."
They don't ignore Lavalon! Lavalon was one of the first nations Sullifree offered treaties with, Natopia was months later. Foreign Affairs should NOT be the only reason for a merger!!! They are NOT worth it! And I'm not trying to insult Nate or anything, but Lavalon is a better micronation than Natopia. It is more culturally enriched, more unique.
D*mnit, I feel sorry about Lavalon. Perhaps Xon is right about its leadership being Natopia first, Lavalon second.
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Nate
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Chancellor of Natopia
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Post by Nate on May 29, 2005 13:08:22 GMT -5
uh... our legislature is called the Legislative Frenzy... if thats not unique, you're an otter.
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Post by Brian Capelle on May 29, 2005 13:16:52 GMT -5
Well congratulations on Lavalon on getting rid of all of Kieran Bennett's unique Ideas, as well!
hehe, yes... Legislative Frenzy is pretty cool though...
How do you know that I'm not an otter? OK, I guess you could assume that from my picture on our message boards...
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Nate
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Post by Nate on May 29, 2005 13:37:01 GMT -5
Comments by foreigners are not allowed.
(Edited by the Chancellor)
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Post by Brian Capelle on May 29, 2005 13:47:14 GMT -5
They've already been lost! Think of that no Kieran symbols act that was passed before I came here...
and that picture was actually before a haircut, but it's all back and I'm about due for another...
And you're not a citizen, you really shouldn't be posting here... but ah, it doesn't matter. Nobody cares, you will gain that right soon enough anyway.
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Post by timjr on May 29, 2005 13:55:19 GMT -5
Comments deleted by the Chancellor.
FOREIGNERS MAY NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCEEDINGS OF THIS ASSEMBLY unless called to do so!
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Post by Brian Capelle on May 29, 2005 14:15:02 GMT -5
Well, in this case, I seem to have out-xonned you Xon, because I still disagree with this.
But I'm ok with it, and proud of you as a Sullifreean citizen, fellow Aryezi, and micronationalist as a whole for advancing to this more mature point in micronationalism made by this post.
Any way you look at it though, there is still work to be done.
-- Brandon --
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Nate
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Post by Nate on May 29, 2005 14:21:27 GMT -5
firstly Brandon.. a treaty betwen Natopia and LAvalon allows each other's citizens to post, not vote, in each others legislatures. and secondly... xon... im speechless... of all your previous applogies... this one sounds sincere. It's not up to me, but i'll insist that Lavalon uses your website. As for the forums... haha... sorry, i still like Proboards but... uh, Natopia has an "open citizenship" policy, applications dont require approval from anyone, and our constitution prohibits denyoing citizenship for all the usual things and "any other status." when Lavalon joins the Union, I intend to take up my residency there... maybe you should too. (yes, this is an invitation to join Natopia, if you'll have it) I now think the hatchet can be buried... xon has. I have... i hope everyone else does... for the sake of the Union, we must get along... our fighting tore Lavalon in half... and it hasnt fully recovered since then... Let's not think of the Union as Natopia taking the others... but as everyone starting over again. the Union is the New Lavalon, the New Faronia, the New New Germany, and the New Natopia... all roled into one, everyone helping each other. It can be done.. but it requires US, everyone, to work together.
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